It felt like maybe wed both leave at the same time. I cried, I asked and I balled. I think thats what people keep forgetting. Its not competition, Isbell makes clear with a chuckle. So she did daytime job. But they took me seriously, but they also knew the seriousness and the impact of the help that they were giving me. The election is November 8. Despite the many questions as to why she was undergoing the procedure which she described as having "cells removed" despite trolls labeling her a "baby killer" Shires wrote at the time, "The reasons that I chose to have an abortion are personal, and they are mine." It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. Its you, Brandi Carlile, Natalie Hemby, Maren Morris. People forget that, if you take away access to reproductive healthcare, youre going to be killing moms like me. Jason Isbell) Official Video ft. Jason Isbell Watch on Tour Dates Track to get concert, live stream and tour updates. I also received responses from trolls. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. I would have died had this procedure not been available to me. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? And I said, yeah, I feel like theres not a lot happening there emotionally for me. When Shires was in the hospital giving birth to their daughter, Mercy, in 2015, she had to disclose to her doctor, with her husband and mother in the room, that shed had an abortion. And (laughter) I, like, played the part. Then I tried recording it in a couple of other situations, and I just didnt have it right yet. In 2020, The Highwomen won album of the year at the Americana Music Honors & Awards ceremony. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. WebAmanda Shires - The Problem (feat. Dont support artists who dont support your rights. Say whatever feels better or whatever. I would she would set us up in the in the closet of the bail bonds office. I am Terry Gross. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. "Maybe it was circumstance, but I saw my chance and I took it," she boasts, her tone fuzzed-out by distortion. And healer seemed fitting for me not only because it happened that way, but my moms a nurse. I still miss the way you lean in. And I said, OK. And then I fell in love. And I save them all. The song is called Empty Cups.. Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. And I was trying to sing that song A Little Walk With You (ph). Im so glad you wrote it. They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. I was gifted as a girl. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. I had people threatening me. And you got your start professionally at age 15 playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys. GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? Its yet another thing that, when policing does happen, is going to happen haphazardly and ruin lives. Teaching himself to hear his own songs objectively has been one of the harder lessons to learn, he says: Its impossible to get that distance for me. But, yeah, after a while thinking about it, I got more comfortable with it. She was in her home recording studio with her fiddle and with guitarist Zach Setchfield, and they played a few songs. Is that right? And hes saying, you know, basically that hes going to support her and hes there for her. On August 9, 2021 Soon after a Supreme Court draft ruling that would overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. And I know that he likes to help. I cant see a thing from here. Then Im like, This is coming out now., Jason Isbell on the Art of the Livestream, Supporting Indie Record Stores, and That Feral Hogs Meme, Devon Gilfillian to Cover Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On' With Jason Isbell, Grace Potter, Jason Isbell Blasts Van Morrison, Covers 'Into the Mystic'. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. Ive found and scrounged and continued to for every interview that hes done in any form and any language. And how come you didnt know before? People will have to prove that they have been raped. But I thought, what am I going to do about that in the event that she does go into country music? And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. ISBELL: (Singing) And all I could think to say was. fiddle-playing damn Texan. Home to the Grand Ole Opry from 1943-1974, the Ryman earned the moniker \"Mother Church of Country Music\" as the genres of country and bluegrass developed on its stage and found a national audience on radio and television. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. Not saying something is not helping. Lets start with a track from the new album. And if you want a doctor, Ill examine every inch of you. But finding a voice now and sharing their stories now is as good as any time. This fight is about more than just abortion. And while I I know the voice that I have is what I have. (Playing guitar, singing) Like a common loon, I started hearing birds, birdsong everywhere. Do you need the reasons why? Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. Isbell said he had to cancel his Asheville shows scheduled for Jan. 11-12, but he and his team are working to reschedule shows in Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre and Wilmington. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer, musician Amanda Shires. Were you just, like, the cute kid who could play but, you know that audiences would go wild over because you were a girl in the band and there wasnt much of that? Warblers and wrens, hymn at my throat, shook and quivering. In 2016 I was going on the road. We just couldnt get along. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? Click the audio link above to get the full experience, On channeling her feelings about her marriage into writing Fault Lines and showing it to Isbell, I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering, and this is after some kind of nebulous argument, and I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine, I said, I just wrote this song. And then in my mind I thought, Well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? The tracks release When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. GROSS: Amanda Shires, its been such a pleasure to talk with you. "I did a parking lot pirouette / I said, 'You're right I'm not done with you yet.'" Lets get back to my interview with Amanda Shires, a great singer and songwriter who also co-founded the band The Highwomen, which is a kind of all-star country music band. Like, dont cry; dont show your emotions; be stoic; be strong; everything else is weakness. And if anyone asks me, Ill say whats true I dont know. You can call me serious trouble. If you want a driver, climb inside or only want to take me for a ride, you know you can. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. And here it sits. So either you have surgery or I think you die. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. He still cant seem to notice when the dishwashers unloaded and all the dishes are put away. The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. I mean, many songwriters would say, oh, theyre not about me. Michael Schmelling. Roberta Shorrock directs the show. I mean, only just now nine months later, interestingly enough have I returned to having normal periods. And, you know, she. And then, we did it, sing the song. That way, there could be a more kind of a wider effort to try and have the conversation with folks and realize that youre not alone. And any policing will disproportionately affect people of color, low-income folks and other marginalized groups. We followed a coyote through the dust of Mexico. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. Yeah, I can do an excerpt. In my case, I blame the education system, but I didnt even know what an ectopic pregnancy was. When she paints a picture of motherhood in the subdued jangle-pop number "Charms," she doesn't dwell on its oft-idealized and sentimentalized facets. GROSS: The bail bondsmen are often their offices are often located in a very low-rent part of town. We have Olivia Rodrigo and Phoebe Bridgers speaking up, and Ariana Grande. ", In the bruising roots rocker "Eve's Daughter," propelled by a tense groove and serrated, scraggy guitar riffs, Shires plays the part of a woman so desperate to expand her horizons and satisfy her hunger that she's unafraid to take risks in the name of escape. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. You can say I lost my grip. As it turns out, it did start some conversations within our own families. But I am living still. Her new album is Take It Like a Man. Someone saw me sleeping naked in the noon sun. The next time Jason Isbell told Amanda Shires he wanted to quit, she began talking with his manager about facilitating a trip to rehab. However, the "night-before bender" nearly broke them. Shires told WNYC Studios, "He wanted to do every drug, drink every thing, drink the moonshine, all the late night stuff, it was crazy. And I was like, my granddad was in Alcatraz? SHIRES: I forced myself in that position. Opening with solemn piano chords, The Problem features Isbells voice first, then Shires joins, and the pair trade lines as they move the story along. I hope that if Roe v. Wade is overturned, it causes such a fucking uproar that we end up with more rights than we had before. I am your man. And then my orchestra teacher recommended me to a private violin teacher. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? I would like to challenge other folks who have platforms to actually use them. On August 10, my life was savedthese are some dark days.. "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist For my children, I did what I had to do. And thank you so much for having me as a guest. SHIRES: I found that out for Christmas, Jasons merchandise guy, Chance, gave us each our family trees. After Isbell announced last week that he would require enhanced Covid countermeasures at his show in Austin, Texas, singer-songwriter Marc Broussard took to Twitter to lash out at Isbell, calling him bourgeois and elitist. Broussard asserted, Some working-class fans cant afford the risks associated with either the vaccines or even getting a test, adding, Id rather quit music than become a pawn in the pressure campaign. He did not provide any evidence of the risks he claimed were associated with getting the jab or receiving a test. So it was just like a week and a half or two weeks afterwards that Texas banned abortion. If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. GROSS: You know, youve said that a lot of the songs on this album come from a troubled period of your marriage to songwriter and singer Jason Isbell, who you perform with and who plays on this album. However, Rapinos memo notes that Live Nation and artists can only make vaccines a requirement where permitted by law. Artists performing at government-operated venues in states where lawmakers have prohibited vaccine mandates will be prohibited from enforcing such measures. I think she probably knew 100%, but.. One is a Honduran asylum-seeker who died while trying to cross the border. She sings of the excruciating awareness of both mirroring and superseding her own mother. There were probably 2,500 people, and Im just standing there with a guitar, elevated and facing everyone. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. Thank you for performing for us. Which would I rather have? And she came over and I showed her. Having recently moved to Nashville with Shires whose own fourth solo album, Down Fell the Doves, comes out next week the newlyweds will sequester themselves in different corners of the house to write new songs, then play them for each other. We try to have as much fun as possible singing a bunch of sad-ass songs, he said from the stage with one of the few grins hed allow himself. I like the way these lines kind of happened in our lives and like tributaries in a way that we dont realize are happening. feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows, He then shared his symptoms and expressed his gratitude for getting vaccinated: Lotta sinus drainage type stuff, scratchy in my throat and some muscle aches but no cough or breathing issues fyi. You could say its all my fault. It's not often in country musicor pop music for that matterin which an artist addresses a very personal and sensitive subject like abortion through a song. And after we recorded it, he said, Thats a really good song. And I said, Thats all you have to say. Amanda Shires and Jason Isbell depict a couple having an honest, difficult conversation about abortion in the new song The Problem. The tracks release coincides with International Safe Abortion Day and proceeds from its sales will go to the Yellowhammer Fund, a reproductive justice organization based in Alabama. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. In the past, white men have said otherwise. And I was like, thats what I want to do, because you play this song. Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? Lets get back to my interview with singer, songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. When the ball goes in the pocket, you win. Writing songs isnt so cut and dried, he says. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. I was learning orchestra and classical music in school and privately. And from there, he introduced me to Frankie McWhorter. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. In 2020, The Highwomen won Album of the Year at the Americana Music Honors and Awards ceremony. I believe thats when that that became not an option. I had to spend the night with her at work. Subscribe: http://bit.ly/1lq9aEQTour the Ryman: http://bit.ly/tourtherymanVisit the Ryman Calendar: http://bit.ly/rymanconcertsAbout the Ryman Auditorium:Established in 1982 as the Union Gospel Tabernacle and renamed for the visionary who constructed it, Captain Tom G. Ryman, the Ryman Auditorium is a National Historic Landmark and cultural epicenter of Nashville, TN. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. If we tell our stories, it helps other people feel empowered. All Rights reserved. SHIRES: Theres a medication that you cant take right now after, you know, about two weeks after this happened to me. But for me, I was just happy to be up there playing music I loved. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. I know I can take it like a man. We found out that, yes, our grandmothers are pro-choice. Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. But I just got up on a stage and took the fiddle and started playing it. He asserted that the band would cancel the concert if any venue refused to agree to their requirements. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda Amanda Shires. Amanda Shires (born March 5, 1982) is an American singer-songwriter and violin player. She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. Shires has released six solo albums, her most recent To The Sunset on the Silver Knife label in 2018. Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. I said, I just wrote this song. SHIRES: But I like it because I like to imagine like, if he was alive and I got to play this for him, I would be singing Im your Amanda. AMANDA SHIRES AND JASON ISBELL: (Singing) Everythings going to be OK. Its going to be all right. Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. GROSS: You grew up in Lubbock, Texas, and Mineral Wells, Texas. I recorded my interview with her last week. I remember thinking, Wow, theres a lot of potential for me to really mess this up.'. And that song, its part my story and part, you know, stories I know from friends. Not standing up for folks is not helping and its not right. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Kitty Eisele adapted it for the web. "Through a sunset, shifting gears, to the something better shining diamond clear.". Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). And it just worked when we did it. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van so I was left to the radio choices of sports ball and Top 40 country music. Tommy Duncan was the singer. So what didnt you like about your voice? I remember I used to think the force was strong with him, says Tompkins, who signed his first publishing deal when he moved to Nashville at 22. And then my mom would drive me down there. Is a chrysalis a butterfly? Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. I was snared by your wrist. I heard in 22 songs, one womans voice I heard. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. And I know that Jasons platform is bigger than mine. Wills was the father of western swing. That one speaks to me. Interracial marriages cant happen. Privacy rights are going to be gone. And so I got to do that basically because I was willing to work in a group and play a part and do just that thing and show up on time. Oh, I could have crowed. FRESH AIRs executive producer is Danny Miller. Some of the reason [The Problem] is only coming out now is fear on my part, and Ill admit that. It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. In a June 2022 follow-up, the artist detailed for Rolling Stone her experience of ending a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy in August 2021. Yet, Isbell noted, the problem is that many of the venue owners are getting so much pushback from some of the governors of certain states who want to kowtow to their political base.. And I said, Id love to. GROSS: Oh, thats great. It is not trapped in your throat. Shes also one of the founders of the group The Highwomen. And these guys are in their 70s and 80s, and it was very much like hanging out with lots of granddads. In an interview on MSNBC Monday, Isbell stated the response he has received from people who work at the venues and in the music business has been positive because they understand we could go back to not working at all, adding that smaller venues might not be able to reopen if they go through another round of shutdowns. Every one of them except for me survived. So I couldnt really get into it. I hope youll join us. SHIRES: Yes. And this is the iteration of the band Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys, which got their start in they were most famous in the 30s and 40s and 50s. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. So thanks to them as well. Chris Tompkins, a high school friend who has co-written mainstream country hits including Carrie Underwoods Before He Cheats and Florida Georgia Lines Get Your Shine On, says Isbell seemed on a different level even back when they were covering Stairway to Heaven together. Lets get back to my interview with singer-songwriter and musician Amanda Shires. Amanda Shires. And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. GROSS: You forced yourself in the position of having him hear you play? Where are our Nashville folks? On forming the all-female country super-group The Highwomen. Its an often-times divisive topic, and I dont want to bring any hurt to my family by doing something like putting out a song about this topic, but I lost all that fear when I got angry. 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